Comments on: Maven: it ain’t too bad http://ericlefevre.net/wordpress/2009/05/06/maven-it-aint-too-bad/ Eric's Elegant Elucidations Fri, 12 Mar 2010 15:38:55 +0100 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.5 hourly 1 By: Faster tests, at CITCON Paris 2009 « Eric Lefevre-Ardant on Java & Agile http://ericlefevre.net/wordpress/2009/05/06/maven-it-aint-too-bad/comment-page-1/#comment-2874 Faster tests, at CITCON Paris 2009 « Eric Lefevre-Ardant on Java & Agile Tue, 22 Sep 2009 08:12:08 +0000 http://ericlefevre.net/wordpress/?p=609#comment-2874 [...] face reality and move away from their ideal abstraction (very reminiscent of Joel Spolsky’s Law of Leaky Abstractions). The only question is: how confident are you that those (slightly compromised) tests actually test [...] [...] face reality and move away from their ideal abstraction (very reminiscent of Joel Spolsky’s Law of Leaky Abstractions). The only question is: how confident are you that those (slightly compromised) tests actually test [...]

]]> By: Robert Maldon http://ericlefevre.net/wordpress/2009/05/06/maven-it-aint-too-bad/comment-page-1/#comment-2673 Robert Maldon Thu, 07 May 2009 00:28:50 +0000 http://ericlefevre.net/wordpress/?p=609#comment-2673 After using Maven for a few years I'm still conflicted on whether Maven is a good thing or not - which probably means in my opinion it is a bad thing :) I hear you when you talk about not being able to justify messing around with your own build scripts since Maven is "good enough". However, in my experience if you want to do something slightly different to "the Maven way" (i.e. something not directly supported by the Maven plugins, or even if you have to fix bugs in the plugins) you are in for a universe of pain - the Leaky Abstraction. A small annoyance I've had with Maven is "repository bloat". If you keep adding new versions of JARs to the repository and are not diligent about removing old versions (which may be problematic if you need to build an old version of your software) then the Maven repo keeps growing and growing and growing :) I still prefer to check in JARs instead of pulling them from a repo. But that's just me :) Nice post about Maven. After using Maven for a few years I’m still conflicted on whether Maven is a good thing or not – which probably means in my opinion it is a bad thing :)

I hear you when you talk about not being able to justify messing around with your own build scripts since Maven is “good enough”. However, in my experience if you want to do something slightly different to “the Maven way” (i.e. something not directly supported by the Maven plugins, or even if you have to fix bugs in the plugins) you are in for a universe of pain – the Leaky Abstraction.

A small annoyance I’ve had with Maven is “repository bloat”. If you keep adding new versions of JARs to the repository and are not diligent about removing old versions (which may be problematic if you need to build an old version of your software) then the Maven repo keeps growing and growing and growing :) I still prefer to check in JARs instead of pulling them from a repo. But that’s just me :)

Nice post about Maven.

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